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  • Rugged Smartphone v Premium GPS

    Back to topic, ran both the Montana with OSM maps and the AGM X2 smartphone with Tomtom mobile this time on the old BSA's handlebars, 115 miles in all in three segments
    Problem with the OSM maps on the Montana is that, either the shortest route is flawed (no avoidances), or they take you down footpaths depending on what map you use. I still don't think the 680T is as sunlight readable as my 650T was.

    TomTom App got the first segment route right, over 2 miles shorter than the 'shortest' route on the Montana maps but the map lacks contrast which makes sunlight reading more difficult.

    Will investigate both further.

    Eneloop batteries were excellent!
  • Device update 4.40 won't install

    That is cleaner. No messing with the Explorer settings and having to revert back.

    Thanks again for the helpful posts (from you both!). I couldn't have gotten this to work without your help.
  • Device update 4.40 won't install

    Had to do a lot of fussing around, but eventually found enough posts to figure this out. I tried putting renamed file into Garmin and Garmin/NewFiles, both with no success. Changed my File Explorer settings to show System files, still couldn't see the .System folder. Then I found a message by Boyd in this thread:

    which explained going into MASS STORAGE MODE, which then displayed the .System folder. Copied gupdate.gcd into .System, restarted GPS and it ran the update. Went back into settings and reverted to Auto.

    Thank you very much. I've bookmarked links for future use.
  • Free (no subscription) POI for Speed Cameras and Red Light Cameras link?

    I think the weekly posting tallies on POI Factory are Monday thru Sunday. So, if you post today (Sunday) and tomorrow (Monday), that will count for 2 of your 3 weeks, so you could get the files for free as soon as Monday Nov 19.
  • Free (no subscription) POI for Speed Cameras and Red Light Cameras link?

    Only takes 3 weeks for free access ... pay and get immediately. Perhaps someone is willing to violate the use agreement ... not me tho. Sorry.
  • Rugged Smartphone v Premium GPS

    The side by side comparison was an abject failure!

    The Montana died ten minutes from home with a low battery warning. The set were Ansmann 2850 mah straight out of the box and freshly discharged/charged. They were bought to replace a set that had similarly failed after only a year. Testing some other sets and so far none of them charge above 2200 mah after just over a year, some a lot lower! I will not be buying any more Ansmann batteries!

    The AGM X2 was loaded with Copilot after I decided I did not like Locus Pro. Amoled screen has wider visibility. 120 miles in about five hours on the road down country lanes and I had 69% battery left with everything on full blast so that was good.

    Routing was very poor on shortest route setting, with obvious shorter routes on minor roads ignored (there are no avoidances on Copilot). The turn by turn navigation was good, however. Having reached the interim destination we used a route-sheet so phone was just used to help spot upcoming turns. Problem was the maps lack contrast on whatever theme on minor roads and the labels are too small and faint to read from as riding position, despite increasing font size, so the phone was useless for this purpose.

    Recalculation was instant unlike the Garmin machines so the processing power appears better.

    Overall, short term, the Montana will likely be staying on the old BSA handlebars I am sorry to say, but will need to sort the battery problem as the internal battery does not last long enough for 100% display in full sunlight.

    Longer term I feel the answer lies in the phone, but the apps I have Googled don't match up to a premium dedicated device in my view.
  • Rugged Smartphone v Premium GPS

    Taken the full plunge and rugged smartphone ordered, so now I will start looking at apps in detail, but not here obviously. :)]
  • Instinct

    It is good to see Garmin introduce a new product. That said, the Garmin wearable devices do not interest me at all.
  • Garmin market evolution.

    Garmin devices seem to work forever. I have 6 Garmins ... oldest from 2009 and they all still work like new. But without sales of new devices to generate revenue, Garmin will not be able to continue with the "lifetime" map updates, and at some point will also discontinue the Smartphone Link service for traffic. And that will be the end of it. Sure, you can install OpenStreetMaps to get updated maps, but you lose a lot of functionality and features when you do that.

    Garmin still has the best user interface for road navigation IMO, but they sure missed the boat by not coming up with a sustainable marketing model for smartphone apps.
  • Garmin DriveSmart 61 screen problems?

    I updated to iOS 12 and I still have the Garmin app. However it was broken and non-functional when Garmin announced they were discontinuing it. Part of that announcement said they would continue to support the app for two years I think? I'm sure Apple or Google required that to keep it in the app store. When they fixed it and released the new version, it was a bit of a stripped down version though with some of my previously purchased extras no longer supported. I haven't really used it since.

    Around the same time Apple made some announcement about greatly increased app support for CarPlay, and I wondered if that was what made Garmin decide to pull the app. Maybe just as the bad marketing decision we're all assuming, or maybe for some obscure licensing reason since they work on some head unit navigation systems. I just rented a car with CarPlay and have to say it was really nice to have Apple Maps, Google Maps, or Waze as the "built in" navigation. Maybe Garmin didn't want the app to be able to do that for whatever reason? I can't see why not, they'll sell a lot more apps (even at $50) than they will stand alone units, and that would be a cheap (for them) way to get Garmin navigation into many more vehicles. But then this is the same company that initially decided not to make either an iOS or Android app but instead to make their own phone and get everyone to buy that. And we all have Garmin phones now, right? (Does anyone else even remember that there was a Garmin phone?)

    Back to my original post, I've had my replacement DriveSmart 61fow a while and put at least 4k miles on it now with no repeat of the problems I had in the original post (other than the charging messages when I connect it to anything other than the in car power cable).