Cyclops Safety Cameras-any good?

Anyone have any experience with this subscription you can buy from Garmin?

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  • Boyd 1332 Points
    I don't think those are available for the US, are they?
  • SergZak 222 Points
    Yes, they've been available for ~6 months or so.

    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=69781
  • Boyd 1332 Points
    How about that... I didn't realize. Thanks Serge! And looking at that link, I think the answer to the OP's question is for him to simply get the free trial and decide for himself (if it is available for his area):
    Question:
    What is the difference between the Safety Camera purchase options?

    Answer:
    Safety Camera information is available in formats including a One Year subscription, a One-time download, and a Free trial. Your format selection will depend on how frequently you plan to download updates as well as the length of time you would like to have the service.

    One-year subscription – A One-year subscription will provide unlimited safety camera downloads for the region selected over the course of one year. Pay only one time and return as often as you choose to download updates to your compatible device. This option will keep you up to date as safety cameras are relocated or added in your area.

    One-time download – A One-time update will allow a single snapshot purchase of the Cyclops safety camera database for the region selected. This inexpensive purchase option will give you up to date information at your time of purchase, and as information becomes outdated, another One-time update or One-year subscription can be purchased.

    Free trial – Not sure if you are interested in a safety camera subscription? A 30-day free trial allows you to test out the service free of charge. Updates can be downloaded to your device throughout the free trial period. One free trial is offered per device and at the end of the trial, a new One-time update or One-year subscription can be purchased. The free trial is not available for all safety camera regions.
    Last modified on: 05/20/2010
  • meyer261 0 Points
    Thanks Boyd, I did read that, but just wondered of anyone else's experience with it. Downloading free trial now....
  • Upacreek 0 Points
    Thanks Boyd, I did read that, but just wondered of anyone else's experience with it. Downloading free trial now....
    It would be interesting to know how this is like, or unlike the data available thru POI Factory.
  • SergZak 222 Points
    I'll comment on the the differences between Garmin's offering and POI Factory's offering. I tested (free 30-day trial) Garmin's offering on my nuvi 765 and here's what I found (off the top of my head)...

    Garmin's pros:
    1. Nice speed cam icon embedded in the grey alert banner (I could not test older units that use the green alert banner at the top of the map screen)
    2. Very easy to install with no configuration needed
    3. Supposedly updated on a weekly basis (I only got one update in 30 days)

    Garmin's cons:
    1. Paid subscription lasts only one year
    2. RLC (redlight cam) file is locked to only one GPS unit
    3. Alert icon and sound are fixed and cannot be changed by the user
    4. Alert distance is fixed at .1 mile (too close for me personally) and cannot be changed
    5. Cannot search for speed/RLCs on the unit using Where To?>Extras>Custom POIs
    6. Cannot test the RLCs using 5 above in GPS simulation mode
    7. RLC intersection is not named (ex. Main St & Flower Rd)


    POI Factory's pros: (these will apply to pretty much any user uploadable POIs, not just POI Factory's since it's done through Garmin's POI Loader)

    1. Customizable icons, sounds, alert distances
    2. Updated weekly with an online changelog (locations added/removed by State)
    3. On-unit searchable (Where To?) and testable in GPS simulation mode
    4. Free as long as you're an active forum contributor.
    5. Not locked to only one device...use on as many GPS units as you own.
    6. New format shows RLC intersection name (ex. Main St & Flower Rd)

    POI Factory's cons:
    1. Must be an active forum member to access files (not really a disadvantage after all).
    2. Uploading and setting up alerts/icons/sounds can be confusing to the beginner.
  • I do not like the Cyclops commercial alert!

    I hate the constant speed alert when you are only 1 mile over the speed limit! (Turns speed limit to RED :)

    The dang alerts are audio sound and not voice! I am 59 years old and I can not read those dang small alert messages!

    I loved my old one with that very friendly female voice "Red Light Camera Ahead"!

    In my opinion do not waste your money on this piece of crap :) lol
  • gatorguy 191 Points
    My 1695 and Cyclops uses the "bong" alert (not, not the call for Deadheads) and a very readable on-screen icon for traffic camera alerts. The database might be slower to update new locations than POIFactories product (Ive used both) but I do like the way the Cyclops/Garmin alerts are integrated.
  • so cyclops have special technology for no false alert :
    cyclops-uk.com/waypoint-technology.html

    and :
    4km on motorways, 2 km outside urban areas and 300 meters in urban areas. Danger areas are: Fixed speed cameras, mobile speed zones, railway crossings, the road narrowed, bridges and tunnels, steep slopes, dangerous turn reported, schools and summer camps, hospitals


  • jonnop 41 Points
    I used the POI factory system for a couple of years. Whilst it worked ok I found that the main problem was that it did not work directionally. By this I mean if there was a camera in the opposite direction only I was still getting a warning. I use the cyclops system now as it seems accurate. I also prefer the fact that it is a direct download whereas the POI needs a small amount of work done first - as SergZak mentioned.
  • I do not see the 3597 listed as a compatible unit for Cyclops.
  • jonnop said:

    I used the POI factory system for a couple of years. Whilst it worked ok I found that the main problem was that it did not work directionally. By this I mean if there was a camera in the opposite direction only I was still getting a warning. I use the cyclops system now as it seems accurate. I also prefer the fact that it is a direct download whereas the POI needs a small amount of work done first - as SergZak mentioned.

    exactly, that's why cyclop be interesting
  • I do not see the 3597 listed as a compatible unit for Cyclops.

    cyclops working on my old nuvi360, and i am sure your 3597 working with cyclops, just trye demo 30 days cyclops, just for fun, et make test with your gps in demo mode, if you know where is one radar camera location for one test
    P.S, 3597 is in my prefered list for new gps

  • alanb 210 Points
    I'm afraid the 3597 is not compatible with Garmin's Cyclops safety camera product for US/Canada. AFAIK, none of the 2013 / 2014 models are compatible with Cyclops.
  • t923347 208 Points
    Are there some 2013 models in this compatibility list:

    https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/prod69781.html

    Like the 3590 maybe?
  • Boyd 1332 Points
    Not familiar with all of the devices on that compatibility list, but the 3590 is actually a 2012 model. :)

    http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2012/01/garmin-debuts-new-top-tier-gps-navigator-at-ces.html

    "OLATHE, Kan./January 9, 2012/Business Wire — Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today announced the nüvi® 3500 series"
  • why you dont try test with cyclops, is free for 30 days, there's no way you break your gps,
  • if cyclops not working well , juts plugging your gps on your pc and revove ".gpi" file
  • t923347 208 Points
    edited September 30
    It doesn't have anything to do with putting the gpi file on your unsupported device, it's the fact that you can't get the trial version for a device that isn't on the compatiblity list. Here is what you get when you attempt to download the file for a unsupported 3597:

    image

    Also I was able to download the .gpi file using another one of my Nuvi's. Placing that file on the unsupported 3597 results in the contents of the .gpi file not even showing up under Custom POIs on the Nuvi.

    The Cyclops files may well work on your 360 but you can't download or use them on a device that isn't on the compatibility list.

    On the other hand, I have never had a problem with the speed and red light camera files from poi-factory.com and they are free, have no device compatibility issues, are updated monthly and are free if you maintain your account over there.
  • quebec001 0 Points
    t923347 said:

    It doesn't have anything to do with putting the gpi file on your unsupported device, it's the fact that you can't get the trial version for a device that isn't on the compatiblity list. Here is what you get when you attempt to download the file for a unsupported 3597:

    image

    Also I was able to download the .gpi file using another one of my Nuvi's. Placing that file on the unsupported 3597 results in the contents of the .gpi file not even showing up under Custom POIs on the Nuvi.

    The Cyclops files may well work on your 360 but you can't download or use them on a device that isn't on the compatibility list.

    On the other hand, I have never had a problem with the speed and red light camera files from poi-factory.com and they are free, have no device compatibility issues, are updated monthly and are free if you maintain your account over there.

    Yes poi factory fork well, so is possible of the standard poi factory make false alarm ex: red light near your way or other!
    check technical Cyclops
    http://www.cyclops-uk.com/waypoint-technology.html
    give me your mail i give you one gpi file free


  • t923347 208 Points
    edited October 4
    Thanks but I could have 100 gpi files and none of them will work on a 3597. Tested and proven as per above posts:
    t923347 said:


    Also I was able to download the .gpi file using another one of my Nuvi's. Placing that file on the unsupported 3597 results in the contents of the .gpi file not even showing up under Custom POIs on the Nuvi.

  • alanb 210 Points
    A few years ago, JM (the POI Factory owner/moderator) looked into directional alerts for their camera files. I think this is possible if you purchase and use some of Garmin's developer tools. He decided against it. I don't know if the reason was technical, financial , or Garmin's licensing/developer requirements,,but in any case, it never happened.
  • t923347 said:

    Thanks but I could have 100 gpi files and none of them will work on a 3597. Tested and proven as per above posts:

    t923347 said:


    Also I was able to download the .gpi file using another one of my Nuvi's. Placing that file on the unsupported 3597 results in the contents of the .gpi file not even showing up under Custom POIs on the Nuvi.

    Curious, on other forum , one said:
    Look earlier in the thread for the link to download the free trial of Garmin's Safety Camera files. That is what you'd get if it came pre-installed on a newly-purchased nuvi. The trial version will work as long as it's on the nuvi but it won't be updatable unless you pay to subscribe.

    Note that many folks here that use The Factory's redlight and speed camera files are likely very happy that the Garmin trial is not preinstalled on devices they buy since they'd quite often have to search the nuvi to delete the Garmin trial.


    if one trial version is pre-installed on nüvi® 3597LMTHD , is working! you know ??? so i dont have one new 3597,
  • t923347 208 Points
    edited October 11
    The Cyclops Safety Cameras were never preinstalled on the Nuvi 3597 because, once again, they are not compatible with that model Nuvi. The speed and red light cameras that are available from POI-Factory work fine on all Nuvi models.
  • t923347 said:

    The Cyclops Safety Cameras were never preinstalled on the Nuvi 3597 because, once again, they are not compatible with that model Nuvi. The speed and red light cameras that are available from POI-Factory work fine on all Nuvi models.

    thanks lol, you are quick!, so, I am désapointé that nouveauz nuvi not supposte cyclops?
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