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nuvi 37xx series v4.10 update 4/20/2011
SergZak
341 Points
Change History
Changes made from version 4.00 to 4.10:
Added split-screen Junction View.
Added Greek voice support.
Made several map-drawing improvements.
Improved calculation speed for long routes.
Fixed several navigation issues.
Fixed several Junction View issues.
Fixed a Bluetooth error that caused the navigation voice to remain audible when the unit was muted.
Fixed a Trip Planner error.
Reduced the time to display the keyboard for Address searches.
Source:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5063
Changes made from version 4.00 to 4.10:
Added split-screen Junction View.
Added Greek voice support.
Made several map-drawing improvements.
Improved calculation speed for long routes.
Fixed several navigation issues.
Fixed several Junction View issues.
Fixed a Bluetooth error that caused the navigation voice to remain audible when the unit was muted.
Fixed a Trip Planner error.
Reduced the time to display the keyboard for Address searches.
Source:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5063
Comments
1. Traffic icon no longer turns grey when traffic receiver is disconnected/removed. It stays green just as if the receiver were still connected. Going to the traffic page shows the message "traffic receiver disconnected" so the issue is with the icon's color change to reflect the receiver's status. The icon previously always changed to grey when the traffic receiver was disconnected/removed.
Edit
Upon further testing, I've found that this traffic icon bug was actually introduced with firmware v4.00 and not the recent v4.10. However, it has carried over to v4.10
2. Persistent "Database for Traffic Providers" update through WebUpdater refuses to be recognized by the nuvi as actually being updated. The updated file in nuvidrive:\.System\TrafficProvder.xml is indeed downloaded/updated...you can tell by editing the file and looking at the "version=2.70". This is indeed the most recent version. The nuvi OS is not updating GarminDevice.xml with the updated values (if you edit that file, the Traffic Provider section values listed are Major 0, Minor 0 which -should be- Major 2, Minor 70). Because of this, you'll be getting the persistent update.
Hard resets were performed on my end to eliminate the possibility of strange "glitches"
Backdating the firmware resolves both issues.
For everyone who does try the update, do yourself a favor.... before updating, locate the gupdate.gcd file (I think it's in the hidden .System folder) and copy it to your computer. This will be your current firmware, left over from the last time you updated.
Now perform the update. If you decide you don't like v 4.10, replace the new gupdate.gcd file with the old one that you copied to your computer and restart the Nuvi. The previous firmware will now be re-installed.
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__400.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__390.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__360.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__250.gcd
The numbers at the end of the file name are the firmware version numbers (i.e. 400 is version 4.00)
I believe you need to rename the selected file to gupdate.gcd and copy it to the Nuvi as Boyd has mentioned above.
Also, Serg, the problem with the "Database for Traffic Providers" entry in Webupdater that you mention above was there in version 4.00 as well and possibly before that (can't remember).
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_regionfileonly__250.gcd I backdated to v3.90 (& even back to v2.50 to test something else) and updated sequentially through 3.90-4.10 to test this and in my findings, it started with v4.10.
Now if they can fix the routing problem. One think I noticed is that when using the trip planner (that’s built into the 3790t) when a trip planner is saved it is saved in your X:\.System\Trips the file itself has around nine numbers and its saved as a .trip file. I have nothing to open it but, an old program I have (quick view plus) can read pieces of it. That’s how I figured out it was created by the trip planner. Maybe another software update or MapSource update will fix it.
Peace.
For me there is no problem with creating trips, problem is with using them for navigation. Firmware 4.10 doesn't correct main error - no whole trip processed when navigating, so no ETA display, no proper TMC support, no search near trip. I haven't checked if errors with passing intermediate point are corrected.
Before the update, the Junction View shows up within a mile of the interchange, then disappears a few seconds after the voice prompt ends. With the update, the Junction View STAYS ON SCREEN until you're within sniffing distance of the interchange in question, and after you receive a final reminder within 0.2 miles of the next maneuver. I actually like this deal.
Question is...is the extended "view" of the JV timed, or is it proximity based? My experience is based on approaching the interchange at speed, so I wanted to gather some opinions for those who experienced this in a traffic jam.
Again, thanks for the help. I enjoy how informative all of you are here. Good times.
Also as you say, the split view does stay on the screen and only appears when the Nuvi is in "portrait mode" (vertically). Prior to this firmware version the view picture appeared as you say but for me the big difference now is not only do you get the view but also a map of the road being traveled is also being displayed. In prior firmware the junction view picture took up the whole screen and covered the map completely. Being able to see the view and the map at the same time is a super improvement, IMHO.
1. When driving or simulating a route, only the first junction view in the route will be displayed on the map screen although all views can be seen when reviewing the various turns in the route on the "turns screen" (tap green bar on top of map screen and then the individual turns).
2. Although the split screen junction view facility was added in firmware version 4.10 it only works with the 3790 in portrait orientation.
I reported item (1) above to Garmin and they provided me with a new JCV file and said that it should solve problem. Well unfortunately it didn't but installing the new file on the 3790 and doing a hard reset did solve problem (2). I now have split screen junction views in both landscape and portrait orientation.
Here is what the split view looks like on the 3790 while driving through Toronto"
If you wish to have these landscape splits screens available on your 3790 here is the information that Garmin provided me for how to obtain the new JCV file (note it's smaller than the one that was installed with 2011.40):
"If you have recently updated the maps on your nuvi 3700 series to City Navigator North America 2011.40 or City Navigator Europe 2011.40 and are no longer seeing Junction View displays you may need to install a new Junction View file to your device.
First, please confirm that the maps on your device are version 2011.40, otherwise the procedure below will NOT work:
1. From the main menu, touch Tools
2. Touch Settings
3. Touch myMaps
4. Verify that your device says City Navigator North America 2011.40 or City Navigator Europe 2011.40
Once you have confirmed that your map version is 2011.40, please proceed with the following instructions for downloading the needed file
1. Connect your nuvi 3700 series device to you computer using the supplied USB cable
2. Enable your system to view hidden files and folders:
* PC Users:
1. Click the Start Menu
2. Open 'My Computer'
3. Click 'Tools' (WinXP) or 'Organize' (Windows Vista or Windows 7)
4. Click 'Folder Options'
5. Select the 'View' tab
6. Under 'Hidden files and folders' click 'Show hidden files and folders'
7. Scroll down and uncheck 'Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)'
o Note: To undo, place a check in this box
8. Click 'Yes' on the dialog box
9. Click 'Apply' then 'OK' to close this window
* Mac Users:
1. Click Finder
2. Click Applications
3. Click Utilities
4. Click Terminal
5. Type: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
o Note: To undo, Type: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
6. Enter
7. Type: killall Finder
8. Enter
9. Close Terminal
* Download the JCV file using the following URL that corresponds to your mapping coverage area:
o NOTE: Save this file someplace easy to find, like your desktop.
o North America - http://download.garmin.com/support/2011_40_JCV/NA/D3191000A.JCV
o Europe - http://download.garmin.com/support/2011_40_JCV/EU/D2152010A.JCV
Once the file is done downloading, follow these instructions to copy it to your device:
* PC Users:
1. Click the Start Menu
2. Open 'Computer' or 'My Computer'
3. Double-click the nuvi drive
4. Double-click the '.System' folder
5. Double-click the 'JCV' folder
6. Copy and Paste the previously downloaded .jcv file to this location
* MAC Users
1. Double-click the mounted nuvi volume
2. Double-click the '.System' folder
3. Double-click the 'JCV' folder
4. Copy and Paste the previously downloaded .jcv file to this location
Once the file ttransfer is complete, we recommend undoing the changes made to your computer in the second section of this document. Please follow that section again and undo those changes..
Once finished, you can safely remove the device from your computer. Your device should now function normally. "
but don't use Portrait mode that often and were I live I don't see a lot of Junction Views.
In any event, with 4.10 installed, the new JCV file and a hard reset, I do see the split screen landscape mode and like your pic in portrait mode.
I'm surprised you don't use portrait view. It's one of the best features of the 3700 series IMO. I am much more interested in the road ahead than stuff on my right and left. :)
To view the changelog:
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5063
Direct firmware download links:
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_regionfileonly__250.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__360.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__390.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__400.gcd
http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi37xx_GCDFile__410.gcd
To use, connect the nuvi to the PC and drag the downloaded file to the WebUpdater icon. Or, rename the downloaded file to GUPDATE.GCD and copy it into the nuvi's hidden .System folder.
They go to release a better firmware?
- the added split screen junction views doesn't work in other than Portrait mode or without a new Junction View file which isn't available until the next map update.
- broke junction views in driving and simulation mode so that only the first one in a route shows on the map screen.
- plus a long list of items that were not address from previous firmware releases
- plus no support for importing routes (GPX files) from other sources like Mapsource, which was originally promised by the end of March and is available in the newer 2xxx models.
Just got my Nüvi and not able to test it full ...
Next month i going on a 3000 miles-trip and hope that the 3790 will be usable because all those negative message's i read in the newsgroup are getting me thinking that buying this Garmin Nüvi 3790 is a big mistake :?
regards from Belgium
I can confirm that the split screen Junction View feature, while nifty (staying on screen until said maneuver is completed/passed), was broken. I live near a route where two junction views would pop up; the first one showed up, the next one did not.
The update was buggy and Garmin was right to yank it. I switched to 4.00 yesterday. You can revert as well; just ready the sticky topic in this forum.
thanks
After this i have two files in this folder now, the D2504010B.sum and the D2152010A.JCV.
Could you please confirm that this would work and is fine that way?
Thanks
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5063
I saw the update as available, accidentally decided to go forward with it, and just went back to 4.00 without a test run. For those of you who jumped forward, how is it?
There's a good route to simulate up in Canada around an airport that has five JV's in only about 10-15 minutes, so it's easy to check this. I'll post it if you want.
With 2012.10 coming sometime next week, hopefully that firmware fix will come with it. We'll see.
Hey, if you have the post ready, however, I would like to take a look-see. Thanks for that.
Enter this address and change the country to Canada and Ontario for the province. North York is the city.
3401 Dufferin St.
Set that as your location (already in SIM mode, of course). Then hit "Where to" and get to "Air Transportation". You'll see a list of Lester B. Pearson destinations. Choose any one and start that route.
If you go to the "turn by turn" listing (hit green bar at top of map page), you'll see all five JV's as you tap down through each one. But, in 4.10, you'll only see the FIRST JV when actually watching the route go by.
I liked 4.00 best for this because the split screen in portrait mode had the best JV picture. The JV's were smaller in the earlier firmware versions.
Also, Garmin said the next map was supposed to fix this, so maybe they'll be pushing 4.10 again if it actually was a map problem. Strange, though, that the same map version would work with every other firmware update... :?
You will see the first Junction View and the route simulation will continue. Now when you get to within a little over 1KM from the next turn, tap the back arrow to take you from the Map Screen to the Where To? screen. Once there tap the map icon to take you back to the Map Screen. When you are back on the map screen you should see the split screen junction view which doesn't appear normally because of the current problem with firmware 4.10.
I can recreate this in 100% of the cases where a JV should be displayed and currently isn't. I have past this information on to Garmin's support and have received a response that they have forwarded the information along to the engineers. Hopefully this additional information can help them solve the current JV issue. Certainly having to tap the screen twice in order to see the views is not a good or safe solution.
That's interesting about the "double tap" to see the JV's, but it's still useless. Except in a situation, such as this (i.e. testing), would you even know to do that or if there's even a JV there? They are pretty far and few between, it seems, in the states. I sure don't do the "turn by turn" preview religiously before starting out on my routes to know what JV's may lie ahead.
Hey, your screen name wouldn't have anything to do with a USNA alpha code, would it? :shock:
I agree the "double tap" is not a solution to the issue. I point it out only as it proves the Nuvi knows about the views but for some reason can't display them without help. Hopefully this additional piece of information can insure Garmin has a fix sooner whether than later. Currently they are convinced that the 2012.10 map update, do next week, will solve it. We'll see.
Any information please report.
Thanks...
Also present is the periodic Lane Assist not showing up on the screen at all until you press the "next turn" list, then back out to the map view. This seems to re-enable it for the duration of the route.
I'm back to v3.60 as 4.10 still seems to be a mess.
See http://forums.gpsreview.net/discussion/23242/x/p1/
Please help!!!
I tried to download from this forum the 4.00 firmware or 3.90 but the link don't work.
Any Idea?
http://forums.gpsreview.net/discussion/21511/x/p1/
...for more information.
Also, Garmin did intentionally remove their previous firmware updates from their logs, so you have to search much deeper to find a previous update. However, update 4.20 (now 4.30) seems to be very stable, so give them a chance once the kinks are out.