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BLUETOOTH AGGRAVATION!
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I just bought a Blackberry Curve 8310 PDA/Phone and when I try to connect it via Bluetooth to my Nuvi 760, the Nuvi finds the 8310 and it connects to the 760, but then right after it connects, it disconnects just a second later. I see the Blackberry 8310 in the Nuvi itself and it registered in the 760 just fine, but for some reason it wont stay connected. Would you happen to know how to fix this?
Thank you,
Scott Allen
Thank you,
Scott Allen
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Thanks bro,
Scott
Having said that the Samsung phones (and ALL of the other brands including Blackberry's) seem to work good with non-garmin GPS units, so our impression has always been that the problem was on Garmins end. It seems to be hit or miss. Also if it doesn't connect, start from scratch. We get better results when we do.
Any tip, tricks or hints?
Blud
The wife seems happy with her 660, too me its ghetto because I have the 760. Garmin really does make the best GPS in my opinion. There may be other GPS units out there with more bling, but navigation is the bottom line. When Navigon gets their sh*t together I may take another look. For now my 760 is the best GPS I have ever owned. It's accurate like you wouldn't believe and it never picks stupid routes.
Blud
Are U famailiar with the TT 920? How would you compare to the Navigon 7100?
One of the things that the upcoming update will address is better routing, but I do NOT have an issue with the 7100's routing, INFACT I am very happy with it. Last week we had to go to a clients house and we've been there before but didn't want to miss a turn, so we asked the 7100 to take us there. Along the way the 7100 'appeared' to be taking us on a wierd route, but we followed its directions anyway. Turns out the 7100 saved us over 15 minutes from the way that the TomTom and garmins used to always take us :wink: Keep in mind that the Navigon has 4 route settings instead of just a few like other units and my guess is that those that are complaining simply didn't try all of the settings, or their 7100 wasn't configured correctly. Those settings are important because they determine how the unit calculates the route. Next week after the update is released, I am going to compare the 7100 routes to the TT and garmins, and all units will be in the same settings (quick, shortest, optimum, scenic, ect.) so it will be a more apples with apples comparison. If you have a specific 'test' that you would like to see just let me know and I will get together with my friends 920 and we will see how they do :)
First, thanks for the thorough response!
Second, let me challenge a few points you made and add a few observations.
The 920 and 920T are exactly the same except for the inclusion of the TMC receiver in the latter. Indeed, I had a 910 before and so already had a receiver. Indeed, I got one new online here in Eurpe for $50! TMC traffic is always free in Europe, so no advantage to Navigon here. Also they dont have dual continental mapping, which is important to those who travel across the Atlantic a lot. To my mind, the 7100 is comparable to the 720T, not the 920T.
Navigon uses Navteq maps so routing should be closer to Garmin than TT!
You can install video playback with mobilnova on most any TT unit. I had it on the 910 and it worked well. Indeed, though I agree that the 7100 is great value, a refurb. 910 will blow it away for value and hackability. All that storage 20gb, you can store as many vids as you could reasonably want. The 910 with 6.75 maps can also give you mapshare, quickmenu and Help Me! function. You also have an infra remote.
The 920 has what the 910 has but with 4gb solid state memory , bluetooth remote, FM transmitter, and EPT. With QuickGPSfix, TTFF is super rapid!
I have issues with the Euro 710 maps, but I am confident that TT will fix this shortly. CeBit is coming in March and you KNOW TT will have major announcements then. Before that they will be fixing some minor bugs and the Mac issue. I a confident as they always done this in the past.
The 920 has voice recognition, and I am sure the utility of it will be extended free via firmware in the near future. The good news is that basic technicalities of VR is sound (works well from a tech point of view), so improving the utility will be relatively trivial.
Now to some major issues I saw reported in Navigon reviews. The screen is not responsive and requires multiple taps at time to register. I can say that the 920 is SUPERB for this. I tested a 760 thourougly yesterday and it requires a firmer touch than the 920. I see the Magellan prototype s boasting that it will have the best screen responsiveness, but if so that may not be a good idea. The TT 920 is almost TOO responsive already. All but the very faintest touch registers! The Navigon also has tiny input screen and requires a stylus to hit the buttons.
I also read that the Navigon is SSSLLLOOOOWWWW in processing. To be fair however, I hear that performance perks up when a fast high capacity SD card is added. In other words, dont use the supplied card, but rather copy over to a hi-perf. quality made card and you should be set.
Reality view is a gimmick to my mind, as the screen is static, however, it is "pretty" and I can see why some will like it.
Navigon has won many US awards, but WW I am not sure of that claim. The device is gorgeous, but so is the 920!!!
In summary, I can see some positives to the 7100, just as I can say the same for most of the high end units like the HP with the super fast processor and the HD screen, the Garmins with their elegant but chintsy implementations, the Mios with their chock full of features like the TTs, and the efficient/good value Magellans with their crappy cust. service.
The market is better for having many players with varied strengths and who attack the various niches.
Edit:
Would you agree with the following user review as well as the assertion that the fonts are too small on the Navigon?
as a limo driver, here are my complaints re: the navigon 7100...volume is too low even when set at high...it does not display the next street name ahead as a garmin does...it does not allow you to enter intersections....long delay getting sattelite..all of this in addition to your comments which were accurate. after 2 days I returned the navigon for a nuvi680
I have seen comments of the 920 being too sensitive to inadvertent screen taps and like you, that the Navigon could benefit from a bit more sensitivity.
It doesn't appear that TT has been all that responsive to mapping issues in the past, as some of them have existed several years and have yet to be addressed, so I wouldn't be overly confident that TT will take care off this one in a manner that will satisfy the majority of TT users. I would also expect that additional voice funtionality will be found in a future unit and not issued as firmware for the 920. After all, voice functions found in the EU version 720 were disabled for the US 720 to make the 920 look better over here. (Proof is that the voice nav can be reactivated by a simple batch file change, so the function did exist). TT also has been very slow in taking care of the Mac issue.
With the latest announcements from Garmin, I would agree that TT needs to have something major by CeBIT or they will have fallen behind the curve.
The release of Navcore 7 was a major major upgrade given free to ALL tt users, even with the Go classic! Those new features like Mapshare and help Me! are available to them too (mapshare with more recent maps though). TT does not tend to hold back features for hardware update like Garmin!
Regarding maps, the release of Nth America ver 6.65 last year was a major step up in accuracy, briefly outstripping the Navteq maps. These maps were given free to American users! TomTom is not perfect, but does have a stellar past in taking care of their customers in the end. The big problem is their poor communication internally and externally.
Greece and Turkey are the only major countries missing and Garmin maps only primary roads there, so not much more help.
I brought up 910 refurbs as thee are a ton of them on the market and they still rightfully sell well. Its a great device!
Touch sensitivity on the 920 is great as it allows very fast entry once you get used to the controls. Small learning curve.
FINALLY, the VR on the US 720 was a technical issue. It simply was not possible before the release of the 7.10 maps. They could not get it right in time and wanted to hit the US market ASAP, as they had already obsoleted the 910 units. Indeed, the US got the 920 BEFORE Europe. US is their priority now, as Europe is Garmin's.
This market is very tit for tat, so I dont see anyone going too far behind the curve. The feature with MOST potential though is mapshare. When that matures, Kaboom for TT.
I know most would not pay for the Euro maps, but if anyone has any inkling of traveling here, I am sure they put SOME value f thrown in Euro maps.
TMC traffic should be free in ALL countries. Not sure what you mean by this. Mobilnova costs extra money. The software to add features to the Navigon are free downloads. Not sure what you mean by this as it comes with 4Gb. Yes, can't wait :) As mentioned many of those 'reviews' were faked. I'd depend more on professional reviews from sources like Tim then on so-called 'customer' reviews. Many things that we were told about the 7100 from so-called 'customers' were not true or flatly exaggerated. This is one of those exaggerations that grew over time. The first 7100's were designed to be used with the stylus, not the soft fleshy portion of a persons finger. In current units Navigon has adjusted for this and our 7100 has absolutely no problems with responsiveness. I'd compare it roughly to our garmin. In the next few weeks Navigon is going to be addressing this even further with their update. I'm hoping that they will be the first to allow people to adjust the screens responsiveness, like you adjust the screens brightness. Then everyone will be happy. Actually when it comes to recalculating a route we have found it to be much faster than the garmins. It's almost instantaneous (5-10 seconds) it all depends on your cars speed - rural VS. freeway. We just bought a 8 Gig class 6 card so we will be thoroughly testing it as soon as it arrives (in all 3 GPS units). I am GLAD that it is static and I'll explain why. First, a GPS unit is supposed to 'guide you' along your way, it is not supposed to have an 'entertainment' factor. It's supposed to be like having a friend in the next seat that knows all of the roads and gives you precise directions. It is NOT something that is supposed to distract your eyes from the road! If Reality View was animated it would do just that, distract you from keeping your eyes on the road. Depending on your speed it usually only stays on your screen for around 10 -15 seconds anyway, then it automatically reverts to normal view (as soon as you pass the exit). We rely mostly on the voice portion of the navigation, only looking at the screen to confirm certain turns. Reality View has saved our butt at least twice so far and we find it very useful indeed. It is one of the reasons why we no longer use our garmin on long trips, or on trips where we need to get somewhere in a hurry, for example; a clients house. I suppose they could 'tweak' it just a bit but adding animation to it would not be welcomed. There are very good reasons why it is against the law for a driver NOT to watch videos. Anything distracting would not be an added benefit, it would be just the opposite. I'm not looking for 'wow factor' I'm looking for accurate, easy to follow directions from point A to point B, and that's what it currently does. Not 'just' in the U.S. - I know of several that it won overseas. I believe the 'Red' award is one of them. Yes we agree 100%. All units, even the Dash and Ndrive are welcomed if for no other reason that they add many useful features that can trickle down to the mainstream. The fonts are small BUT I have heard that they can be changed via one file tweak (another thing that we like about the Navigon). We are currently looking into this, however in all fairness you have to also keep in mind that there is so much information being displayed, and only so much real estate to display it on, so I don't blame Navigon for this per se, I DO however wish that they would allow the fonts to get bigger IF you turn off some of the features (like altitude for example). They may indeed do this in the next update. It wouldn't be that hard to do with a software tweak. No, this is one thing that I do NOT agree with. The volume is fine on the 7100. It's low on the 2100. The volume is so good that we can even hear voice commands over our radio. Since they are in a limo they should be having no problems what-so-ever because the front of the car (where they'd be using the unit) would be comparable to a pickup truck space wise. Maybe they got one of the first units and it's different from the current 7100's, or they just need to clean the wax out of their ears or get them checked. What build do they have? Ours is 77 and the volume is fine. The ONLY thing that we don't like volume wise is that you have to keep resetting it. The default is midway. I am praying that the upcoming software update addresses this. It would be VERY easy to fix. Again, I'm not sure what this limo driver is smoking but it DOES indeed display this information. If they had spent 5 minutes looking at the Navigon manual they would have found it on pages 51 and 52. No it does not do that, but then again we've NEVER needed that feature, and probably would never use it if it did (we never used it on the garmins). If they really, really need that feature then they should get a different unit. We've never had a problem with it receiving a satellite within 10-20 seconds. Some limos however have added lead (or other features like a heater) in the windshields which may be affecting receiving the satellites.
Thanks for the very thorough answer. You have done justice to the 7100 and cleared the air on many misconceptions. It seems that the 7100 is indeed a creditable player in the segment. The prices I have seen are high though ($550), but you mention sub $300 prices and that is very very good.
If they had a 9100 with dual continental mapping, maybe people like me would become interested. :wink:
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