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PostAdvice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:37 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Editor's Note: This thread is a continuation from this older thread.

I have the Tom Tom 720 ( I posted earlier) and I have determined that I am consistently getting 2.5-3 hours of use of the unit while not plugged into my car charger. After confirming the charge is at 100%, I ran several expirements by just sitting the unit on my desk and watching how long it took before the battery died. Typically is was 3 hours or slightly less.

I have turned the brighness down to 60% and have also disabled the bluetooth.

My understanding is the device is supposed to go for 4-5 hours.

I would be interested from hearing from anyone regarding what kind of stand-alone use they are getting after a full charge and if you think it is worthwhile to attempt to have the unit serviced under warranty.

I have had the unit for about 1 month.

thanks for any thoughts.
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Post  Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:48 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ok, I'm game.

Lets set up some test criteria. If all follow them, we can do a mini survey.
  • disable bluetooth
  • disable wireless data
  • FM transmission off
  • day colors
  • brightness to 60%
  • "never turn off screen"
  • box unchecked for "switch off when external power is lost."
Can you think of anything else?

Once we get the test standardized, we can go to it and collect data!
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Post  Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:56 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

PhillyChip, I love the idea of a standardized test so we can compare. I wonder though if we might need to do 2 tests. (Or maybe just modify the first.) TomTom says we should get "up to 5 hours" of battery life. So perhaps we should do everything in our power to get 5 hours, and if we don't..... well that isn't good. Smile

All of your suggestions for settings look fantastic, I'd add that we turn off the "auto night mode" in case there is any power savings in turning off the light monitor, and perhaps setting the display brightness to 0%. That way if we don't get close to 5 hours with that there is an issue. (Of course I totally realize almost nobody would set their display at 0% for day use, but we probably should do everything we can to squeeze out every last bit of power.

Something else we might want to note is how long we have had the device.
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Post  Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:57 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

And this probably goes without saying, but nothing should be connected to the USB port, nothing connected to the TomTom port, and no (real) SD card inserted.
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PostAdvice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:02 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim - I am a little new to this forum ( I am the author of the original question). I would love to hear what others are getting out there. If people respond to a survey, will the results appear in this same blog ?

sorry - not good with this stuffl.
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Post  Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:02 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yes, they will respond in this thread so long as they hit the 'reply' button on this page.
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PostAdvice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:04 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim - great - I will do anothe test myself with the criteria you set and also check back to see any other results.

thanks.
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Post  Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:57 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

PhillyChip wrote:
Ok, I'm game.

Lets set up some test criteria. If all follow them, we can do a mini survey.
  • disable bluetooth
  • disable wireless data
  • FM transmission off
  • day colors
  • brightness to 60%
  • "never turn off screen"
  • box unchecked for "switch off when external power is lost."
Can you think of anything else?

Once we get the test standardized, we can go to it and collect data!


Tim/Philly Chip - with the criteria you described, I am getting about 3-3.5 hours max on my Tom Tom 720 for stand alone battery life ( before the unit shuts down).

Anyone else ?
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Post  Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:34 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm going to charge overnight (if I remember) and run the test tomorrow. Were you running 60% brightness or 0%?
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PostAdvice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:21 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim - I was actually running at 50% brightness. ( on a side note - reducing to 50% brightness did not seem to change the actual brightness of the screen very much - it was still easy to read in the car).
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PostRe: Advice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:08 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

i made sure my 720 had a full charge before my flight
from east coast to west coast.

I turned it on right before take off,
and it crapped out shortly after landing.

it was a 5 hour 10 min flight.
though i turned it off for 15 minutes
during my meal...

my screen was dimmed all the way to 5%.
no bluetooth
no wireless
day colors

I was constantly zooming in and
around nearby areas...
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PostRe: Advice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:27 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

lfcitz wrote:
i made sure my 720 had a full charge before my flight
from east coast to west coast.

I turned it on right before take off,
and it crapped out shortly after landing.



Don't they make you turn it off during takeoff and landing? And don't some airlines ban their use entirely?

Anyway, I tested my 920 yesterday but at 15% brightness which seems fine here in Michigan where we don't see the sun this time of year. I got just over 4 hours with it sitting on my desk at work. No satellite reception btw if that makes a difference.
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PostRe: Advice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:40 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I don't know about airlines banning their use.

With bluetooth and fm transmitter off, it's just a receiver right?
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PostRe: Advice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:53 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

lfcitz wrote:
I don't know about airlines banning their use.

With bluetooth and fm transmitter off, it's just a receiver right?


See http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/gpsrfi.htm

and http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm
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Post  Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:57 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

disable wireless data
FM transmission off
day colors
brightness to 50%
"never turn off screen"
box unchecked for "switch off when external power is lost
disable auto night mode (both boxes)
turn off sound

I got 3 hours and 5 minutes. The unit was next to a window able to pick up and fluctuate between 7 to 9 satellites.

Is that correct that it will make a big difference (longer life) if the unit sits in an area that does not pick up satellite signals?
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PostRe: Advice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:02 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

glfnzoo wrote:
lfcitz wrote:
I don't know about airlines banning their use.

With bluetooth and fm transmitter off, it's just a receiver right?


See http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/gpsrfi.htm

and http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm


looks pretty safe to me...

thanks for the link.
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Post  Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:09 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

All electronic devices (anything with an on/off switch) is supposed to be turned off for take-off and landing. Some airlines (Southwest comes to mind) do specifically ban the use of GPS at anytime on the plane.
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PostRe: Advice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:11 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

lfcitz wrote:


looks pretty safe to me...

thanks for the link.


Oh, I'm sure it's safe, but why should that matter Rolling Eyes ...
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PostAdvice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:53 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Called Tom Tom tech support - basically they said that the advertised 5 hours of battery life is the optimal, under perfect conditions. For example, having the screen shut off between instructions.

I told him I am getting about 3 hours without the car charger. The tech guy said that is about average for battery life.
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Post  Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:56 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

With Blutooth off, wireless data off, screen brightness at 0%, day colors, and a full overnight charge, one a device purchased at the end of July I squeezed out 4:43.
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Post  Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:45 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ran the test you suggested using the Garmin nuvi 760, (screen set at 50%).
Battery life was 3hrs 46 minutes. Perhaps slightly better than the TT battery life. Garmin also quotes theirs as up to 5 hours. Didn't remove my SD card tho. Why would that make a difference? If it does, I'll rerun the test over the weekend. Unit is only 2 mos old.,
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Post  Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:49 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I want to apologize. Just now realized this was posting in the TT forum. Thought I was in General GPS discussions. DUH! Not trying to intrude.
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PostAdvice regarding Tom Tom battery charge duration  Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:36 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
With Blutooth off, wireless data off, screen brightness at 0%, day colors, and a full overnight charge, one a device purchased at the end of July I squeezed out 4:43.


Tim, I turned down day color brightness to 20% and was about to get about 4 hours.

When you ran your test or 4:43, were you using the device to navigate, or was the unit just turned on, but idle ?

Also, when you navigate, do you use the 'spoken directions,' or just the screen ?

thanks!
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Post  Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:44 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Idle. I use both spoken and the touch screen depending on my mood.
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