TomTom 920T for $440, 920 for $360 Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:21 pm
I don't normally post this kind of thing... but this deal might be too good to miss. You can grab the 920T (see our review over here) for $439. Go to Dell's Home site and use coupon code 3SGDCRT53DH7V3. The 920 without the traffic receiver is $360 with coupon code N7$?8MDH339?3B.
Tim, I just ordered the TT 920 through Dell. Thanks for the heads up. It looks like a great deal, I was gonna wait for the 30 series to come out but for my first GPS unit I couldnt pass up the deal.
Its one of those things that if you wait it might be cheaper. A month from now youll see me saying the same thing,lol. Oh well I got a nice unit for a great price.
Oddly enough, but at least in Britain the Garmin 770 sells for quite a bit LESS than the TT920T. 920T is £295, 770(T) is £261 - prices from amazon.co.uk.
That phenomena isn't new. In North America where TomTom is the new guy they have to try to undercut the competition on price. In Europe where Garmin is the new guy they need to do the same.
But competition should still be fair. With accumulated losses for three years in a row for its N.A. Division, TomTom is obviously selling at a loss in America. Makes you wonder why Garmin hasn't yet filed its anti-dumping petition with the ITC.
As a general rule, competition is a good thing for consumers, as long as the participants are all in the same level playing field. But when you have the likes of TomTom selling at a loss; and Navigon, which includes everything in its offerings but the kitchen sink, it makes you wonder, doesn't it.
Unfair competition, in the long run, can be disastrous as it will siphon out profits and R&D dollars, the key to innovation and better products.
Well put Uncle Ben. In the short run, yeah, it's nice. In the long run, I don't see how we're going to see the benefits of better tech implementation and features without profits for R&D.
Record the serial number in a safe place, then just start using it. When you get a few things like your HOME location and preferences set, and start getting comfortable with the device, use HOME to make a backup.
But competition should still be fair. With accumulated losses for three years in a row for its N.A. Division, TomTom is obviously selling at a loss in America. Makes you wonder why Garmin hasn't yet filed its anti-dumping petition with the ITC.
As a general rule, competition is a good thing for consumers, as long as the participants are all in the same level playing field. But when you have the likes of TomTom selling at a loss; and Navigon, which includes everything in its offerings but the kitchen sink, it makes you wonder, doesn't it.
Unfair competition, in the long run, can be disastrous as it will siphon out profits and R&D dollars, the key to innovation and better products.
Cheers!
HappyTrails! Drive Safe!
None of them are losing money on any of these units.
All made in China for dirt cheap prices. They are giving up the attrctive margins in search of share. However, TT discontinued slashed prices in the US soon after Xmas and are now promoting again, as new models are coming out.
Garmin only promos a few models at a time here in CH. I have never seen the 760 below the TT 920 in price here in CH, even though the 920 is the more highly regarded unit here.
France is different though, as I saw in Fnac in Paris.
Prices are all over the board in Europe, Germany a LOT different pricing structure than France or Britain. Seems they're charging what the market will bring in various countries. But fact remains that according to TT financials, they are losing money in the NA market. (BTW, 700's mfg in Taiwan. . . Kinda the same thing)
Prices are all over the board in Europe, Germany a LOT different pricing structure than France or Britain. Seems they're charging what the market will bring in various countries. But fact remains that according to TT financials, they are losing money in the NA market. (BTW, 700's mfg in Taiwan. . . Kinda the same thing)
Maybe well be on the North American market, but it would be due to huge infrastructure costs and not on the units themselves! The waay they implement their services mean high CS interaction, and high returns for non-issues, due to customer misunderstandings etc.
Recall that we said that Garmin units are "dumbed down" in terms of being a closed system and less room for user errors messing with system integrity. TT is the opposite, you are encouraged to play with the unit and HOME interaction, plus other modification increase the likelihood of bricking units. This all costs!
Garmin devices are less customizable... which leads them in turn to be more stable. But, as we've seen with a recent WebUpdater issue if things go wrong that closed system can come back to bite you and having a bricked Garmin isn't out of the question.
On the other hand the TomTom is more customizable. While that makes it less stable when you start installing add-ons and other customizations, I rarely hear of someone bricking a TomTom... just reinstall the application and you are back up and running.
So:
Garmin - Less likely to have trouble... but if you do you are likely to send it back.
TomTom - More likely to have trouble... but almost always recoverable.
Roughly 40-50 margin depending on season. I've got a friend who has an electronics store. But many of them also don't sell direct to the stores but rather though distributors.
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