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PostSo I went to go buy a GPS today....  Sun May 04, 2008 10:22 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

And here is how the conversation went. Sometimes it is way too hard to buy a GPS even when you know exactly what you are looking for.

Me: I want to buy a "Brand Series Model"
Salesman: That GPS doesn't exist.
Me: But I saw it on your website earlier today.
Salesman: I'm a supervisor in the electronics department here, there is no such model.
Me: But I saw it on your website earlier today.
Salesman: There is no such thing, maybe you saw something else, or maybe it is online only.
Me: But your website says this store has them in stock.
Salesman: We don't have them, let me show you on our computer-- see, it isn't there.
Me: But you spelled the model incorrectly, take out the space.
Salesman: Yup, still nothing.
Me: But now you spelled the brand wrong.
Salesman: Okay, here it is in our database, but I'm sure we don't have any here because I've never heard of it before.
Me: Can you check?
Salesman: Oh wait, it says we have 5. Let me go look for it. -- I can't find any, it must be a mistake.
Me: I see one, right up there high on the top of that shelf.
Salesman: Yes, there it is... I'll go get a ladder.


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Post  Sun May 04, 2008 10:46 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

What the heck are you doing buying retail to begin with, Tim. But then, I'm one to talk. Laughing
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 12:13 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I buy almost all of my GPS devices retail, including the ones for review.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 1:05 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

What's wrong with webvendors?
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 4:36 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

They are not across the street. Smile By "retail", I thought you were asking why would I purchase a GPS as opposed to getting them from the manufacturer. I have no problem at all with web vendors.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:15 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sounds like Best Buy and a 930.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:39 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well, you are half right, and I won't comment further. Smile
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:41 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim must have been shopping at Circus City.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:45 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Let me do you one better.

I was in Italy last weekend in a town called Alba. I saw an electronics store and looked in to see their selection. They had the usual TT, Garmin, Becker VDO and a few others.

So I ask about the x30 series and the guys says, niente, nada, nothing, never heard of it. I said , ah well and moved off. I was perusing the rest of the store and saw the sales flyer. Guess what was advertised BOLDLY on the front page...a TT 730 with price and all. I went back to the GPS counter, the salesman shouts at the cashier, enquiring about it. The answer, as far as I could tell was ..oh yeah, it has not come in yet!


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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:46 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

That's a good one. At least I walked out of the store with a GPS. Smile
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:50 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim, just wanted to mention something for some of the new members. Your policy of buying "off the shelf" rather than accepting manufacturer gifts is one major point setting this site apart from any of the others. Much less "slant" to the advice and reviews, as you don't owe anything to any of them. Congrats on doing it the right way.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 5:57 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

While I'd love to say it is a decision based 100% on ethics, that isn't the whole story. It is a big part of it. However the standard deal from GPS manufacturers is to loan GPS devices out to reviewers for a period of 15-45 days depending on the manufacturer and product availability. 15 days isn't often quite enough time-- plus, I like to hold onto the GPS so I can later go back and answer questions, make comparisons with other newer models as they are released, etc.

Therefore the "loaner" type concept just doesn't work for the way I work. It certainly helps to take the "high road" so to speak when someone thinks I might be influenced by a particular company or getting a "cherry picked" device. But it is also about holding onto the device so I can better answer future questions, etc.

Now I've just got to figure out what to do with this pile of used GPS devices I have laying around... Wink
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 6:01 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Garage sale at Tim's House!! We all know where you are. The TT guys can just follow the Garmin guys. Laughing Wink
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 6:05 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yeah, while I could just unload them on eBay I'd rather come up with something fun, creative, and with a "promotion" twist. Wink But beware before you come to the garage sale, one map vendor has a road nearby really screwed up. Rolling Eyes
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 6:08 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

gatorguy wrote:
Garage sale at Tim's House!! We all know where you are. The TT guys can just follow the Garmin guys. Laughing Wink


Oh that was sneaky, since we will be there before they get programmed.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 7:03 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Well, you are half right, and I won't comment further. Smile


Your adventure sounded just like when I went to the local BB to look at a 930. I swear you wrote exactly what happened to me minus the buying part.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 7:23 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

See, this is why I absolutely loathe going into the big box electronics stores. Unless I find exactly what I want, I try not to ask. Even when you know what the staff are really clueless. There are the occassional few that know what they are talking about, but they are far too few and far betwee.

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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 8:56 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Yeah, while I could just unload them on eBay I'd rather come up with something fun, creative, and with a "promotion" twist. Wink But beware before you come to the garage sale, one map vendor has a road nearby really screwed up. Rolling Eyes


Maybe, I will win one of those old Garmin and see what the Gator fuss is all about. LoL

I must say though, I am not sure I coulda passed up on that Presskit iPaq at CES. However, I understand why you did.

Another site owner took it and promised a review. That review is still non-existent since February, despite my sending periodic reminders. That is why I dont read that "rag" very often.
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 9:20 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Yeah, while I could just unload them on eBay I'd rather come up with something fun, creative, and with a "promotion" twist. Wink But beware before you come to the garage sale, one map vendor has a road nearby really screwed up. Rolling Eyes


Uhoh! That would mean that Gator would need Road Avoidance!

Merde! Razz
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 9:53 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Actually Uncle Ben, I think I have all my bases covered Very Happy
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 10:01 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

LOL @gatorguy
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 10:02 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

gatorguy wrote:
Actually Uncle Ben, I think I have all my bases covered Very Happy


Welcome to the dark side. LoL
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 10:57 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

gatorguy wrote:
Actually Uncle Ben, I think I have all my bases covered Very Happy


I bet you do, I'd be very disappointed it it were otherwise. Gators have a way to 'work around' anything. Razz
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Post  Mon May 05, 2008 11:32 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mark29 wrote:
See, this is why I absolutely loathe going into the big box electronics stores. Unless I find exactly what I want, I try not to ask. Even when you know what the staff are really clueless. There are the occassional few that know what they are talking about, but they are far too few and far betwee.

Mark


But, if you have problems with the unit you have a store to go into that handles it vs having to mail it somewhere or god forbid you buy it on E-Bay. Despite the hassle of buying the unit at a brick and mortar it is a lot easier when a problem arises.

For $40 I bought an extended in store warranty. I can walk in to the store I bought my 4250 at any time over the next 4 years and get a replacement without hassle if it fails. If the model is DQ'd I get upgraded to the replacement or another GPS of similar value.

So, it is a trade off. Pain in the butt when buying but much better warranty/problem resolution.
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Post  Tue May 06, 2008 2:05 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

gsthunder wrote:
Mark29 wrote:
See, this is why I absolutely loathe going into the big box electronics stores. Unless I find exactly what I want, I try not to ask. Even when you know what the staff are really clueless. There are the occassional few that know what they are talking about, but they are far too few and far betwee.

Mark


But, if you have problems with the unit you have a store to go into that handles it vs having to mail it somewhere or god forbid you buy it on E-Bay. Despite the hassle of buying the unit at a brick and mortar it is a lot easier when a problem arises.

For $40 I bought an extended in store warranty. I can walk in to the store I bought my 4250 at any time over the next 4 years and get a replacement without hassle if it fails. If the model is DQ'd I get upgraded to the replacement or another GPS of similar value.

So, it is a trade off. Pain in the butt when buying but much better warranty/problem resolution.


The few times I've had problems was well after the warranty period, so I had to send it away for repair anyway. To me, it's not worth the extra time & hassle of driving to the store not to mention electronics are often cheaper even with shipping. Also, as a general rule I don't buy extended warranties. If I did that for every electronic I've purchased, I wouldn't have as much stuff Wink
If I need something faster than a few days, I'll go to a brick & mortar. For the most part, I've found shopping online works well for me.

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Post  Tue May 06, 2008 2:32 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim, didn't even realize the new TT's were in stores yet. Guess a review is coming up soon from you. (Didn't catch on which one you were refering to until a few minutes ago)
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Post  Tue May 06, 2008 12:16 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I actually buy most things online. Bought my Garmin handheld GPS online. Just felt more comfortable buying the auto GPS at a brick and mortar with the EW.

Bought my digital camera at the same store with the EW and actually had to use it. Just walked in, handed them the failed one, and walked out with a brand new one. Took 10 minutes. I use my camera a lot for work and being without it for a couple weeks while I mailed it off was not good.
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PostMy big-box story  Thu May 08, 2008 5:35 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

"Customer Assistance Specialist": Ma'am, can I help you?
Me: Yeah, I didn't see that you had any, but I wanted to make sure you don't carry Navigon or Mio?
Him: We actually never carried those brands.
Me: Yes you did. I tested out a Navigon here a few weeks ago that you were selling on an Open-Box deal.
Him: Oh. Um, where's Janessa? You said it was Navo and Mio?
Me: No. Navigon and Mio.
Him (speaks into headset): Janessa, where are you? Do we carry Navigon or Mio? (pause) (speaks to me): She advises that we longer carry those brands.
Me: Ok Thanks.

Then I walked out.
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PostYour used PNDs on eBay  Thu May 08, 2008 8:40 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim, are you buy chance selling any now on eBay?

I'd like to check 'em out, if you are. Smile
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Post  Thu May 08, 2008 8:42 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

No, but what are you looking for?
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PostContemplating ...  Thu May 08, 2008 8:50 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

These:

    Navigon 2100 max
    Navigon 7100
    Mio C720t
    HP iPAQ 310
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Post  Thu May 08, 2008 8:52 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sorry, I have a couple of those, but none I can part with at the moment.
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PostThanks  Thu May 08, 2008 9:03 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

... for checking. Smile
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