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cribber82



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Postupdate 4.3 messed my gps up  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:08 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

is there anyway to undo the upgrade or to fix the glitch
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bossman



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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:09 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

whats your problem? mine wont say directions verbally other than "turn right" no early warning at all. i also need to revert backward.
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cribber82



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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:11 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

our problems are exactly the same there is no pre warning before a turn only turn right when u r at the point do u know how to go back to 4.2
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bossman



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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:13 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

garmin refused to believe it is a firmware bug. my unit is only 2 days old. it forced me to upgrade firmware when i loaded the 2009 maps without a choice to keep the old firmware. someone at garmin tech support needs to read this thread. i am jst curious as to why others who have upgraded to the 2009 maps havent reported this bug earlier.
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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:15 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

You can probably find a firmware rollback file here:
http://www.gpsinformation.org/perry/nuvi/
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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:16 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

found that ealier today, firmwre 4.xx wont let you manually revert back to a version 3.xx , im extremely frustrated. this is my first and possibly last garmin product.
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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:22 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'd probably be patient for just a day or so. It's not that your GPS is not working, it's just not giving your the verbal turn notifications you're accustomed to. I'm sure Garmin has received a number of calls on this and should realize by now that something in the update has caused a problem. Call back in a couple of days to see if they know anything more about it. I would expect another update to be pushed out to correct their mistake in short order.
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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:28 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

do if there is a way to uninstall the update
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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:44 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bossman/Cribber, where did you purchase your 200's? Depending on the retailer, I might simply return them as defective, pick up a new one and just avoid the updates until someone here give the all-clear on it.
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cribber82



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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:59 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

i bought mine at radio shack but do u think garmin will issue a new software update that would fix this prob?
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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:18 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

They've always done so till now as far as I know, as long as it's a verified update app issue. That's why I suggest calling them again in a day or so.
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Lou M



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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:40 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I have the same problem (earlier post). I contacted Garmin, and explained the problem. I ask to get the nuvi200_410.exe file, to switch back to my latest working version. The CSR said he asked his supervisor if this was possible,
and was told that it could be done. He'd e-mail it to me. He asked me, to do a Master Reset before switching back, because it just might be my unit. I told him that others are having this issue. He asked if I knew how many. I said that there are about 4 others on the forum that I was looking at. He said that Garmin has sold millions of Nuvi 200s and if there was a software bug that they would be getting a lot more calls. So, I did the Master Reset, and the problem is still there. I also, thru Webupdater, tried re-installing 4.30 and the problem again is still there. I just got my e-mail reply from Garmin

"Thank you for contacting Garmin International. I have been unable to obtain the requested file for software release 4.10 for a Nuvi 200. I have my supervisor working on obtaining this file and we are also looking into any evidence of 4.30 having certain issues with it’s performance…….I will send you this file when available and might request to set up an RMA warranty exchange as a possible resolution ………."

I will not be sending my "New" unit back for a refurbished / reconditioned warranty exchange. If Garmin does not resolve this soon, I hope the store that I bought it at will exchange it for another one.
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cribber82



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Post  Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:49 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

that was very helpful i also e mailed garmin but havent heard back yet i am waiting on hold to talk to a garmin rep right now
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rapriebe



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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:09 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I've got the same issue with my 260, but I'm not sure that I don't like it. I always thought that Jill was a bit too chatty anyway, and I know my wife will like it better. Wink
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:13 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

As long as she doesn't know about "Aussie Karen" you can live without Jill Cool
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:31 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

i just got off the phone with garmin and he said that they r aware of the problem but untill the next update comes out there is nothing we ca do about it when the new update comes out it will fix the problem he wouldnt tell when it may come out but he said it will be posted on garmins website i hope this helped anyone i guess we just have to deal wit it till the next update
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HLdan



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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:43 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Wow, interesting, I have a Nuvi 760 and I just installed the latest update and all is fine. Still tells me to turn-in xxx miles verbally before the turn. I wonder if this is affecting only certain models. Hope there's a fix soon for everyone.
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:46 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yes, it certainly appears to only be impacting certain models.
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merc669



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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:45 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I would be interested in which models have had the update and results of those updates to see which models should or should not be updated. It might be useful for the other users who have not updated yet. I have the 760 and have not updated (nor plan to right now) and have only seen one good result for the 760 and a lot of bad results from other models not sure which. Maybe we can add the model also in the thread? Thanks and I hope like others have mentioned Garmin takes notice.

Bill......
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Lou M



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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:58 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

My initial contact with Garmin Support, requesting the nuvi200_410.exe file, resulted with this reply

Dear Sir,
The link below will allow you to take a step back in the operational software. Click on the link and select the unit that you are looking for. It will then show a list of software versions. You'll select the version for 4.10. Please let us know if you have any further questionsor comments.
http://www.gpsinformation.org/perry/

I went to that site, but the only 4.10 files were for the Nuvi 300/350/610/660 models. So when I called Garmin Support and told them that the Nuvi200_410 was not listed at that site, I was told not to DL 4.10 for any of the other model, each one is different. So maybe 4.30 is just affecting the Nuvi 200.
It would be helpful if we could find out if someone updated their Nuvi 200 to 4.30 and they are not seeing this problem
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:18 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Garmin recommended Perry's site?? They DO read the forums! LOL

Anyway, I expect the update issue is unique to the 2x0's.


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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:19 am    Reply to topic Reply with quote

merc669 wrote:
I would be interested in which models have had the update and results of those updates to see which models should or should not be updated. It might be useful for the other users who have not updated yet. I have the 760 and have not updated (nor plan to right now) and have only seen one good result for the 760 and a lot of bad results from other models not sure which. Maybe we can add the model also in the thread? Thanks and I hope like others have mentioned Garmin takes notice.

Bill......


I upgraded my 760 to 3.10 haven't noticed any changes - positive or negative.
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Lou M



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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:45 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Just got this e-mail, from Garmin Support, this morning.

Sir,
A company memo was issued this morning pertaining to the issue you and I discussed on the 16th and we will be releasing some new software in the very near future. Please check our website for this update within the next 7-10 business days. Thank you for your patience with this issue and assistance in bringing it to our attention……..
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:00 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

You would think Garmin would beta test firmware updates before a public release... Rolling Eyes

And this nonsense of Garmin preventing firmware rollbacks is just plain uncalled for.
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:00 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I agree with the gatorguy, this appears to only be impacting the 2x0 series as far as I can tell.
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:15 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I also agree that it seems to be an isolated 2xx issue. Note the second item in the change log:
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Changes made from version 4.10 to 4.30:

* Improve handling of the situation where overlapping map data is present on the device.

* Added additional voice support.

Both my nuvi 750 and 760 have been updated to the current v3.10 and have no issues regarding the voice prompts.
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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:03 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I am surprised that this bug got through testing. It just tells me they didn't do a full regression test for this release. I am sure they were getting confident in their releases and ran it through a quick test for whatever reason. This isn't an obscure feature - this is one of the core functions of the GPS device. You would think one of the tests would be to have it run through a route in simulation mode to make sure it does what it is supposed to do (if that wasn't one of their tests it will be now). I am sure some developers and QAers are putting in some overtime for this one to fix what they broke!

As for other units - I also updated my 760 and it works fine. I used it for routing and the voice prompts work correctly.

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Post  Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

This bug could've been found by simply simulating a route and letting the GPS run through it for a few turns as bacevedo stated.

I do agree though that they likely can't run the unit through every single possible scenario but for a core GPS function like this, and especially when the change log states that they did something with voice support, you would think they'd at least concentrate on this specific area of the unit.
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Post  Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:13 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

I just got my 200 this week and was extremely happy with it until I registered it and loaded the update. Was extremely dissapointed with the update and the limited voice commands. Hopefully they will fix this soon or allow us to reload the older software version. Please let us know if anyone hears anything further on this. I was seriously thinking of taking it back while it was still under the warranty at the retail store until I heard others were having the same problem.

Thanks,
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Post  Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:52 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

This issue has apparently been corrected with the release of v4.4.
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Changes made from version 4.30 to 4.40:

* Corrected issue with unit not speaking at appropriate time.


http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3665

Likely also available via WebUpdater.
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Post  Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:26 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

SergZak wrote:
This issue has apparently been corrected with the release of v4.4.

Wow, that was fast, I just upgraded to v4.3 update yesterday afternoon. I'll load it and give it a try. Thanks for the heads up on the v4.4 update.

Thanks,
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Post  Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:24 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yep, that was a major update bug. Give Garmin credit for fixing it quickly and not just send you back to the last release.
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Post  Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:35 pm    Reply to topic Reply with quote

Excellent response on Garamin's part. Even faster than I would have expected.
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