Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Location: webster city, ia
What is Photo Navigation on 255 w? Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:15 am
What is Photo Navigation on 255 w?
I am trying to decide between a 255 w and a 760.
The 760 has more features but not many are important to me besides TTS which both have. (I've read that the actual speech on the 255 w isn't as good as others but I just want it to be audible)
The one thing that the 255 w has that the 760 doesn't is Photo Navigation. I'm just curious on the Photo Navigation details because if I think I would use that more than the extra 760 features, I would buy the 255 w?
Think of it as more of a self service tour guide. You can load a few photos that are tagged with coordinates so as you drive by those coordinates a picture can be displayed.
Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 271 Location: Ottawa, Canada
Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:17 pm
Pardon my ignorance, but that seems like a really useless feature to me. Who thought that one up? I'd rather have itinerary planning with a couple-dozen waypoints instead. Just my opinion, ymmv.
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 1227 Location: Southern California
Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:40 pm
jww wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but that seems like a really useless feature to me. Who thought that one up? I'd rather have itinerary planning with a couple-dozen waypoints instead. Just my opinion, ymmv.
I would tend to agree with you as far as useless features go...case in point, the nuvi 8xx series and it's games...now all we need is for some soccer mom to be playing a game on the 8xx while dealing with with kids in the mini-van/SUV, yapping on the phone, putting on makeup, drinking coffee...well OK, no one can do THAT much while driving, but they sure as hell try!
Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 271 Location: Ottawa, Canada
Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:37 pm
This is no different than making mobile phones game devices, when in reality they are meant for communicating. Once the market identifies a feature that seems cool, all the tech gadgets have to come with it.
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 1227 Location: Southern California
Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:48 pm
Exactly. GPS devices are meant to improve situational/navigational awareness, not detract from it by giving the user the possibility to play a game. If the games were locked out/disabled while the unit was detected as "moving", I would have no issue with them being on the unit. Common sense is the key here, but some people really seem to lack that basic human function when it comes to driving.
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Location: webster city, ia
Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:33 pm
[quote="Tim"]Think of it as more of a self service tour guide. You can load a few photos that are tagged with coordinates so as you drive by those coordinates a picture can be displayed.[/quote]
Thank you for explaining that.
SO in my case (first time buyer) would you buy the 255 w or the 760?
I don't really care about all of the extra features the 760 has, but it looks like it's just a better gps. What should I do?
Are you guys talking about Panaramio photos? I personally think that is one of the coolest features ever! My wife, son, and I recently completed a 2750 mile roadtrip to Yellowstone and back. Before leaving, I browsed photos on Panaramio for a few hours and uploaded a bunch of them to my Nuvi 255.
Once we got under way, that gave us the ability to have the photos in the Nuvi and everyone could look at the photo and say "Oh yeah, let's go see that thing!" or to look at it and say "Oh, it's just another spring pool, we've seen a few of those already, let's go somewhere else instead." I found it to be an extremely handy way of doing sightseeing and knowing exactly which nature site was where. Very handy on a week-long trip far from home and without much in the way of brochures or anything saying what was where.
Well, if you don't need the extra features of the 760, then get the 255W. It has a faster screen response / refresh, it has that upcoming turn arrow, it shows a summary of the trip next to the "GO" button before entering it and it costs less than the 760.
Oh and the photo navigation isn't useless. If you go to the Garmin / Google Panoramio site, you can download a geotagged picture of a place or places you might be traveling to and then transfer them to the 255W instead of entering the addresses for all of those places.
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 123 Location: Chandler, AZ
Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:03 pm
I currently have a 760, and if I were buying a unit today, I would probably be comparing the 760 to a 255W as well.
The one thing the 760 has that the 255W doesn't have is the Multi-Destination routing. I actually use that feature quite a bit. If you won't use that, then the 255W is a nice GPS. Just make sure you don't overlook this feature, as most people realize why they want it, after they have a GPS that doesn't have it. Other than that, the 255W is a very nice unit with the faster processor and updated UI.
I will say, however, the 760 does not seem sluggish to me and lacking in processor power. I have never had a problem navigating with its version of the UI.
Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 271 Location: Ottawa, Canada
Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:03 pm
Mulit-destinations / waypoints would be a big thing for me as well. Why not the 750? Has all the features of the 760 w/o bluetooth. Seems that would be a good fit against the 255w.
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 123 Location: Chandler, AZ
Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:02 pm
Yes, you can work around it by navigating to a waypoint one at a time. But it won't tell you how long until you will get to your "final" destination, miles left, etc. You will only know that info for the current "leg" of the trip.
Also, you can't have the 255 optimize the route for you. Haven't used that feature yet, but others might.
Yes, you can work around it by navigating to a waypoint one at a time. But it won't tell you how long until you will get to your "final" destination, miles left, etc. You will only know that info for the current "leg" of the trip.
Bryan
Actually, you can get this information as follows:
Tap the "Turn indicator" in the upper left corner of the map screen.
Scroll through the turn directions until you reach your final destination.
Wait a few seconds (I seem to recall that your Nuvi will beep once or twice).
The expected duration of your trip will be displayed!
PaulyWally, but that only goes as far as your initial destination. You can't wrap up multiple destinations into one single route and find the total trip time on the sub 700 series Nuvi devices.
PaulyWally, but that only goes as far as your initial destination. You can't wrap up multiple destinations into one single route and find the total trip time on the sub 700 series Nuvi devices.
I don't have my unit in front of my at the moment but I believe the procedure I've noted gives you the trip time to your final destination from your start destination.
Yes, however that is just for one destination. If I have three places to go today I cannot combine all of those into one route and see the total time and distance for the entire trip.
Yes, however that is just for one destination. If I have three places to go today I cannot combine all of those into one route and see the total time and distance for the entire trip.
You can by adding the other destinations as via points. Won't be optimized though.
But you can only add one via point for a total of two destinations. If you need more than one via point the other via points will be replaced, not added to. To get more than one via point you need the 700 series.
But you can only add one via point for a total of two destinations. If you need more than one via point the other via points will be replaced, not added to. To get more than one via point you need the 700 series.
I bought a nuvi 855 because I thought Photo navigation would be a nice feature. Then I found ought there are only two ways this feature is supported;
1. Upload the photos to Panoramio [making them publicly available] then download them to the nuvi from Panoramio's web site.
2. Download pictures to the nuvi [with some awareness of the nuvi file system], hand edit geolocation information through nuvi's limited user interface [hoping I didn't make a mistake somewhere in the process - either mismatching a photo or entering in an erroneous location].
The 3rd option [which doesn't exist] - Garmin provides a tool [or Garmin provides an API so that some innovative company can design a tool] which allows me to personally upload geolocation photos to the
nuvi without having to hack the unit.
The first approach is easy but rediculously intrusive because it forces you to hand over your photos to some third party, Panoramio.
The second is a royal pain becaise not only do you have to hack a nuvi [knowing where and how to put photos onto it], but you have to manually associate photos with geolocation information.
The third doesn't exist as an option.
I'm starting to think I wasted my money buying an 855.
This is no different than making mobile phones game devices, when in reality they are meant for communicating. Once the market identifies a feature that seems cool, all the tech gadgets have to come with it.
Hey, my Palm Centro came with Sudoku and I have enjoyed playing it while waiting for service on my car and doctor's appointments. Sure it's not necessary but it's nice.
Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 244 Location: West Coast, US
Re: Photo Navigation Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:57 pm
JimDavidson wrote:
The 3rd option [which doesn't exist] - Garmin provides a tool [or Garmin provides an API so that some innovative company can design a tool] which allows me to personally upload geolocation photos to the
nuvi without having to hack the unit.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought mapsource can do all that quite easily.
If you think copy and paste photos to your \garmin\jpeg folder is hard, you can buy a little SD or MicroSD card ( depending on your model ) and dump all your photos in there.
Rest procedure is simple as 1-2-3...., no?
1. Start your mapsource.
2. Browse the map and use "way point" tool ( little green flag ) on top of your menu and click on your desire spot.
3. Small menu will pop up, you can enter your own description. ex. "place I proposed to my wife".
4. At the bottom of the same small pop-up menu, there is a "file/url" where you can link to your SD card or internal Nuvi memory for desire photo.
5. when all done, just click on "load to device" icon. All your custom POI w/photo is now at your Favorite.
Don't get fraustrated, it might be just something you might have missed.
Then, if you aren't sure if the POI Spot is absolutely correct, right click your custom POI to view and verify on Google Map or Geocashing.com
Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 244 Location: West Coast, US
Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:36 am
JimDavidson wrote:
Mapsource supports POIs and not Favorites.
It does. Just relax... it is all there.
1. Open mapsource
2. Press little icon "Load from device".
3. You will have all your favorites on "way point" catagory left side of mapsource screen.
4. Then double click any of your Favorite to edit, connect photo link, and load it back the same way as I previous described.
Thank you for contacting Garmin International. I would be happy to help you with this. You can place the pictures on your Garmin device by plugging the unit in and dragging and dripping them into your jpeg file. This will allow you to access them and add them to your Favorites. Im sorry I think I misunderstood what you did NOT want to do. You mentioned Panoramio, but also mentioned :
an interface which doesn't require having to edit the Favorites once they're uploaded to the nuvi?
This will still require you to go into the Garmin and edit the favorites. So to clear up what I am saying is you can add pictures to your GPS without Panoramio.
What Garmin is saying is exactly what my original post complained about. namely, you have to perform photo/geolocation association on Favorites you must do it on the unit. POIs and Favorites are different beasts. Mapsource supports POIs - not Favorites.
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 1227 Location: Southern California
Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:15 am
JimDavidson wrote:
POIs and Favorites are different beasts. Mapsource supports POIs - not Favorites.
I've been using MapSource for many years now. MapSource has always supported favorites or "waypoints" (as they are referred to in older days or if you're using a hand-held GPS).
Depending on how the waypoint is to be used dictates what it will end up being. It can either be a favorite or a POI. If you save it/transfer it to the nuvi as a favorite, it is a favorite. If you save the waypoint(s) in .GPX file format, you can then use that file to upload the waypoints to the nuvi as POIs using Garmin's POI Loader.
So in a way, MapSource supports both POIs and Favorites.
Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 244 Location: West Coast, US
Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:38 am
JimDavidson wrote:
What Garmin is saying is exactly what my original post complained about. namely, you have to perform photo/geolocation association on Favorites you must do it on the unit. POIs and Favorites are different beasts. Mapsource supports POIs - not Favorites.
I can see your fraustration and keep trying to proof that "Favorite" can't be edit or add photos via mapsource.
But just for the fun of it... can you try it on your mapsource now and see if it can handle or add photo to your "FAVORITE"?
Because I am now also have mapsource open and I have no problem edit, add photo to it. I am sure SergZak can show you as well, if my instruction wasn't clear enough.
What frustration? I'm friggin developer for Christ's sakes. I know what the I'm talking about and I've verified it with Garmin It doesn't work - period - end of story.
What happens is Mapsource inserts a link to the GPX file on the Garmin, however, the link doesn't activate.
In this case, the link is "Media/jpeg/Image%201.jpg". When you reboot the nuvi the link isn't associated with the waypoint and is not displayed. The only way to associate it is to edit the waypoint [Favorite] and attach the photo manually.
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